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The TRASH Our Kids Listen To, Trashy Music
HP2005 Oct 13 2005, 05:50 AM Post #1
Has anyone ever told our "therapists" that there is more to problems kids face
than the so called "abuse" they have been through. I have seen to many
therapists focus to much on so called abuse that some kids have faced, and not
enough attention on what they listen to. I am a houseparent going on 4 years
now, and recently I picked up some CD's that our kids have here at the home.
Inside the CD's was the insert that had the words to all the songs on the CD. I
was utterly floored at some of the words, phrases, trash and garbage that are
on these CD's that our kids pump in their minds all the time by these portable
CD players they carry around all the time listening to this garbage. MOST of
the songs on the CD's dealt with sex, demons, suicide, rape, killing, hate and
violence. BUT, when you mention this to the therapists, they act like its no
big deal. COME ON people, the human brain is like a computer, what you put in
is what comes out. Like the Bible plainly says, "As a man thinks in his heart,
so is he". If our kids are pumping this trash in their minds all the time,
maybe we need to not be so focused on the fact that "Little Johnnie or Susie"
has been abused, but focus more attention on what "Little Johnnie or Susie" is
pumping into their minds 24/7. NO WONDER our kids are so full of anger,
violence, sexually active and troubled. Let's pay more attention to what they
are LISTENING to and WATCHING on TV......trash in.....trash out!!!
IF...you have any thoughts on this, please post them here.
raider72 Oct 14 2005, 11:59 AM Post #2
I AGREE 100%!! MEDIA IS A VERY POWERFUL & OVERLOOKED FORCE IN OUR YOUTH
CULTURE. OUR SOCIETY IN GENERAL IS IN DEEP DECEPTION OF THE IMPACTING POWER OF
MUSIC, VIDEO, & NOW INTERNET. SCARY HOW MUCH IT HAS PROGRESSED IN THE LAST 20
YRS WITHOUT MUCH NOTICE.
webmaster Oct 19 2005, 09:07 PM Post #3
Although I am a firm believer in the "Garbage in - Garbage Out" Principle and
we are very vigilante (and are fortunate that we are allowed to be) to limit
the type of entertainment that our children (Birth and Home) are exposed to.
However, I don't believe that the root of the problem can be traced to
inappropriate music and movies. The entire culture that these children come
from effects every aspect of the child's behavior. And it is a DIFFERENT
Culture in most cases. I don't mean an ethnic culture, many times it is a
culture based on drug abuse, or poverty, crime, etc.
momof10 Oct 21 2005, 01:32 PM Post #4
I am also appalled at the amount of trash these kids listen to. Funny though
because I listened to some 80's music the other day and I couldn't believe the
message that was sent through songs I thought were pretty tame. I came out ok I
think.
Are you able to watch what things come in your cottage? I know at our home, the
kids know they aren't allowed to listen to any CD that has the parental
advisory on it. If they do have something, it is taken from them and they are
given consequences. Also, if they are listening to it in the cottage or van
where others can hear, they earn consequences for any bad words that come out
of the radio. When consistant, the kids are quick to jump and change the
station to something more appropriate. Walmart has CD's of the popular
singers/rappers with the bad words edited out - I don't think (and I could be
wrong) that they sell any parental advisory CD's at all. Hope this helps!
Lady Incredible Oct 26 2005, 09:10 PM Post #5
Where I work the kids aren't allowed any cd's or tapes at all and they are not
allowed to watch any music channels either.
catch Nov 21 2005, 02:56 PM Post #6
Even if you buy the cds at wallmart what difference does it make its not like
the kids dont know what real words go in place of the edited words.
Personally I don't care what movies my teenagers watch as long as their not
rated R PG -13 and less, as far as music goes they can't listen to parently
advised cds but I don't care what radio station they have on their walkmans,
they have been listening and wathing stuff for years alrealdy and only letting
them watch G movies isn't going to make a difference in their treatment.
I have 8 girls between 12 - 18 all higher levels of care and they all behave
pretty well, I have about 1 restraint every six months or so and most of he
older kids have jobs and they all pass in school yet wehen I worked at a
facility where they could only watch g or pg movies and could barely have any
CDs those kids were in restraints a couple of times a week hardly any of them
had jobs and a lot of them were failing in school so I don't think what they
listen to or watch makes a difference either way.
sandylegsntoes Dec 12 2005, 02:22 PM Post #7
I agree that music can build up or tear down a kid's spirit. All one has to do
is watch how they act out after listening to certain music. In the place I work
there are rules against raunchy, lewid music. But the kids still have it. One
day I was in one of the girls bedroom. I looked down and saw a homemade cd that
had written on it , "F@@k da police.." I confiscated this cd but another girl
found it and returned it to the owner. I informed the hp about the content of
the cd and they just sighed and said, "OH! These teens and their music!"
CaringCouple Dec 12 2005, 06:54 PM Post #8
QUOTE (catch @ Nov 21 2005, 02:56 PM)
"I worked at a facility where they could only watch g or pg movies and could
barely have any CDs those kids were in restraints a couple of times a week
hardly any of them had jobs and a lot of them were failing in school so I don't
think what they listen to or watch makes a difference either way."
That statement alone would give me ca
use to wonder if "Control" was not an issue and problem of the staff and not so
much the result of children's behavior. I agree that the music has less effect
on the kids and more on us.
Having worked for 2 years in a Level 12 facility in California that was totally
"Hands Off" with some very tough kids I simply don't believe in the need for
"restraints" at all.
There are better ways.
But if you are into controlling too many things that are really out of your
control how can you effect any positive change in the youth?
Although I prefer Neal Diamond and good Country music, the music youth prefer
is reflective of the environment they are growing up in and the most you can
hope for is take the energy they are looking to channel through the music and
focus it in other areas.
Try sitting down and listing to some of their music with them and questioning
them on what it means to them. A lot of times they are only listening to it
because "everyone else does" and have no concepts for the words or meanings in
the words. I've seen kids start to question themselves after really stopping to
think about the words and message.
Unless you are on a closed campus with a private school this is a battle that
requires far too much energy for little effective outcome.
catch Jan 8 2006, 06:46 PM Post #9
To add to the comment I wrote before regarding music, I think worrying to much
about the cds and movies our kids are watching and listening to is nit picking.
All kids both abused and not abused listen to all kinds of music with
inappropriate launguage by the time a kid is nine or ten most kids are famillar
with every bad word or phrase there is regardless of how or where they grow up
even if you think they arent.
The words they listen to may seem shocking to some of you but its the way the
kids talk. They are listening to language they know and things they feel. Dont
nit pick with them just because they enjoy something a lot of the older
generation houseparents don't understand. Listening to cds that have he F word
in them is hopefully the worst thing most of these kids ever do.
And someone earlier said you should see the way some of these kids act after
listening to their music well you should pay more attention to the way they act
after coming back from their therapists.
Nit pickng about CD'S and movies is like the cop on a power trip who goes after
some kids loitering on a corner or soaping up car windows instead of worrying
about the guy down the street whos robbing someones house.
These kids have such little control over their lives at the moment. don't look
to take away some of the few things they can enjoy. They need to be learning to
make their own choices now not when their 18 and on their own. Maybe leaving
care when they can stay in just so they can listen to a stupid CD or watch a
freaking movie.
prsthelrd Jan 16 2006, 09:13 AM Post #10
I do not think it is a matter of control so much as what is the issue you are
dealing with. We have groups with such diversity of problems. I do not always
think it is the rating so much as the content. I do however for the sake of
group peace have to set guidelines and some things are just not accepted for
public hearing or viewing
sandylegsntoes Jan 17 2006, 05:40 PM Post #11
I would have a problem working with you, catch.
catch Jan 26 2006, 01:27 PM Post #12
QUOTE(sandylegsntoes @ Jan 17 2006, 05:40 PM)
I would have a problem working with you, catch.
I doubt anyone would have a problem working with me, any house ive ever run has
turned out very succesful kids. i've worked with kids for the last six years
iv'e aged out 23 kids I keep in contact with all of them and every single one
of them is doing well. and ive only had 2 girls get pregnant after leaving care
out of 20 can you say the same?
webmaster Jan 26 2006, 01:42 PM Post #13
We need to watch the direction that this thread heads in, or I will have to do
that moderator thing!
sandylegsntoes Jan 29 2006, 10:15 AM Post #14
Keep up the good work, Catch! May God continue to pour out on you wisdom, peace
and love!
GA Sheriffs' Youth Homes Feb 6 2006, 03:03 PM Post #15
We have the same issues with music on our campus. We do encourage the boys to
appreciate all types of music. Several of the boys have asked for guitars at
Christmas time. They are forming their own band on campus. They have kept it
clean
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